To be fair, as terrible as that line was, Mark Hamill was able to make it fly.

@WeylandsWonders It's the parts of dialog that I struggled to master that I remember best many years later!

Unlike Hayden at the end. Duff line. Terrible delivery.

Typical Star Wars shit. Crappiest writing, always.

Mark Hamill wasn't kidding. He never forgot this line

@Steven Alexander "I'm Luke Skywalker" is best pickup line ever... if it's true!

@Hue Jazz How is "I am Mark Hamill" as a pickup line?

Look up Keir Dullea!

@Treize Khushrenada dont forgot he played luke hobowalker in woman ruin starwars the last jedi

@Kamdan That was Obi-Wan's line? Now that makes sense, because to hear it from young Luke? No, just no...

If George had written a high-speed chase scene in a 1970's police drama, he'd have a cop say "Try to hold them off, take the gun and pull the trigger while aiming at their car while I put my foot on the gas and change gears while we try to go fast and outrun them."

@Kentz Hodiono tbf most of that is bad translation

*LOL*

@Kentz Hodiono you’re thinking of the American dubs, which is never the same as the Japanese scripts

@LIMIT CYCLE The right response

And any normal actor'd just say "Punch it, Chewie!"

I can’t believe there was a time when he just had to refer to Han Solo as “the space pirate”

He's Solo, he's Han Solo, Soloooo ;^)

@Krawurxus I just wish in that big clusterfuck fight scene where mary sue having used a lightsaber for a few weeks slays a dozen elite imperial guards, if that was instead a moment for Kylo to shine - if he just went full force-unleashed and destroyed everything in the room, it'd make him both a terrifying villain, and leave her room to continue to grow instead of already being at the apex of potential.

@daexion yeah but he wasnt a pirate he was a smuggler. Nothing he did was pirate like, he was a smuggler and is excluded from being a pirate because not a single action he took would qualify him as a pirate

The pirates and bounty hunters of the Outer Rim is a future reality that is so captivating to me

Well he did refer to a lightsaber as a laser sword in the 2nd last movie

"George Lucas getting roasted to his face in front of an audience for 10 minutes straight."

hes not lol; tha prequels is kinda crap bc lucas refused 2 creatively collaborate xtensively wit other ppl as he did thru tha production of tha OT, cuz he was egotrippin & wanted to prove to tha world dat he was tha sole genius responsible 4 tha original success of star wars (spoiler: he was not). as wealthy as he is, he still seem hugely personally insecure, or at least he was back in tha 00s

they owe their lives and careers to him, its all in good fun

Deservedly so, I love the setting and the ideas were fantastic but script-writer and director are the 2 things that george objectively suck at. Alas disney can afford all the directors under the sun but their writing room and board rooms are utterly infested with people with political agendas eager to use every wedge issue and activist under the sun to further their aspirations. They took a billions of dollars franchise and made it worth millions while attacking the core fans & storylines for no damned reason.

@Mr Wilz I can't deal with wall of texts, they're too annoying to read, but you are dead wrong about no dialog changes. I'm not about to do your homework for you to find all the changes by all the different cast members, but i'll show you my favorite and probably the most famous example here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xtt0-PK-2M That was the quickest example I could find of that particular famous line. So yes, the cast definitely helped change dialog in Star Wars and improved it over what it could have been.

@TheDrexxus The Cast of OT did not make any changes to the dialogue in SW (with the one exception of Han saying 'I know' because Ford didn't want to say the originally scripted 'I love you' in TESB, but this was only after Lucas subjected it to a test audience first who liked before he allowed it to stay in the film. Other than that none of the cast & crew made any changes to the dialogue OT films (despite what SW Haters & the OP believe). And in relation to the battles in TPM, quite a lot of Gungans and Naboo soldiers got killed in the fighting ( far more than the Rebels & Ewoks got killed in the land battle on Endor in ROTJ). If you pay attention to the side-view of the battle where the droids are raking the Gungan's front line with blaster-fire you see quite a few Gungans getting shot in the head. And if you also pay attention to the scene where Jar-Jar tangles himself in a bola, A Gungan cavalry officer next to him gets shot in the chest and falls off his mount. Another Gungan cavalry officer, the one who tries to pick Binks up from the ground and onto mount gets killed from a blast by Droid tank, which in-turn hurls Binks into the air onto the barrel of a nearby Droid tank (and you can also see some fleeing Gungans getting shot in the back by pursuing battle droids etc). And there also plenty of Naboo soldiers and 2 pilots that get killed in the battle at the Naboo hangar. So there is plenty of violence in TPM (including the Pod-races crashes, an impaling done by Darth Maul, who in-turn gets cut in half by Obi-Wan) for what is a family film. Btw - there is no comedic dialogue in the PT. However in episode-9 (aka: 'a load of TROS') nearly every line uttered by the 3 main characters (the 'Mary-Sue-Crew') is an unfunny quip. So much so I nearly wanted to scream at the cinema screen to get them to stop

Mark is the rare beast. Lived in the public gaze for 40 years and still seems just a lovely man.

@Gearoid Garvey Oh nobody's perfect, it's ok if famous people are assholes to others.

@Rockdrigo Ok normie.

I never saw Mark Hamill in anything from ROTJ (1983) to The Force Awakens (2015). Unlike Harrison Ford who made at least one big movie for those 32 years. He didn’t become a big movie star the way Harrison did. That may have helped him stay more grounded.

Yeah, he is still able to voice his own honest opinions which is a rare strength.

While I heavily disagree with all of his politics, I cannot deny that he was a good actor. He's Luke Skywalker, Chucky, and the Joker.

Alec Guinness has the loveliest voice. Perfect for wise old Obi-Wan.

too bad they couldn't get him

voice and persona, he's so restrained and gentle, another cosmic accident for SW

@Debra Kadabra "And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers."

@ttintagel Well I suppose I agree with you there is a great sense of seamlessness between the two performances. Btw I have only seen a few episodes of Kenobi so far but it's looking like a great series (and Ewan is doing a sterling job playing Obi-Wan :)

@Reshpeck I'm not thinking about anything incorrectly. You can make any assumptions and inferences you want, it won't change the fact that you were wrong to state their methodology was incorrect. The fact you didn't understand that dividing by 50 is the same as multiplying by 0.02 and that you don't have the confidence/ability to perform basic mental arithmetic is your problem, nobody else's. You shouldn't be projecting your inadequacies and attempting to correct people based on assumptions, especially regarding a topic about which you clearly have minimal skill or knowledge. If you have indeed tutored grade school students then the rigidity in your outlook is all the more shocking. The 3 different methods I stated are objectively equal because they all produce the correct answer through the correct manipulation of numbers, and will do so every time. That is a fact and facts do not care about your opinions or preferences (or assumptions). Moreover, from a mathematical proficiency standpoint, it is important to teach students (or even teachers in your case) different methodologies so that they develop a deeper understanding of the different ways numbers can be expressed and manipulated. Without such an understanding a person would struggle to move beyond basic arithmetic. Understanding only 1 way to solve a problem is a sure-fire way to limit your potential. And with that, I am done. You will likely reply with more nonsense because God forbid you just admit you got it wrong, but I won't read it so you could just save yourself the time! Peace ✌🏼

"You can type this stuff George, but you can't say it." "You underestimate my power."

"Younglings"

Dew it

"Perhaps you think you are being treated unfairly?"

Somehow I think that "stuff" wasn't the actual word he used. ;)

@Joe G HAH! Pogs, what a forced thing THAT was in the late 90s. heheh. nice one

One of Lucas' problems is that he writes dialogue that is more fitting for book narration or even book dialogue. Think about the sand line, it works fine as an internal monologue in a book, works terribly out loud, really. As they said, you can type this shit but you cant SAY it. Book narration and film narration are different. One of the best and most praised scenes in the prequels was the opera scene where Palpatine tells the tale, and if you think about it, that dialogue is is straight up narration of a written story, so it works. Frankly its quite poetic, in that form. My guess is George spent a lot more time in books than with people at parties.

@Azar Shadakumuktir it also handles Anakin flirting with the Dark side and his mistrust of the Jedi very well. It makes Vader's birth more logical

@Mr.Wepx True, I am rewatching them, and even if I find many episodes lacking they do a really great job at fleshing out characters who had bad character development in the prequels, the jedi order as a whole seems more alive and Grievous becomes really menacing.

@Azar Shadakumuktir Thankfully the Clone Wars series developed him into being this larger than life jedi he was supposed to be

@Azar Shadakumuktir You make really compelling points. I've never been much a fan of Star Wars (it was fun enough), so I never thought about it (or discussed it) enuf to notice the contradiction. But yeah. Valid. I'd have enjoyed a more complex storyline. Honestly... I think the movies were supposed to be for kids. The entire universe feels very ...oversimplified. Incredibly common. And I'm not talking about the good － evil dichotomy (if we can even call it that), or the ingenuity of the fictional world. It has to do with the personalities (the characters) and the problems they face. Like, the characters are real, but one-note. (And I'm including the original in here, tho it was definitely better.) Not complex. Eh, I haven't thought through it enuf to know exactly what i'm trying to say. Ironically, I really enjoyed what was done with Rey and Kylo... until the very end. (I hate the "I go back to good side but now must die in my redeeming cuz no one can forgive me" trope. Fxxx that. Gimme actual redemption, not this wishywashy nonsense. The stories of Jesus' followers are way cooler than any other redemption flic out there.)

@Kellen Smith Well it is written like a tragedy in three parts... Lucas clearly took a lot from classical stage play for the plot of the prequels and characters like Anakin, Padme or Palpatine are very reminiscent of archetypes like the tragic hero, his lover and the ploting villain... I think part one and two are very badly executed but part three manages to be a pretty well written conclusion to the tragedy of the fall of Anakin, the Jedi and the Republic, the main addition of Star Wars in my view being the music and the few scenes without dialogue with iconic music which are often the most important for the storytelling (for example the start of the clone wars at the end of Episode II where the theme of the leadup to the war fully transitions into the Imperial March from the original trilogy signaling that the Sith have already won and the fall of the Jedi and the Republic is unavoidable while Palpatine smiles and Bail Organa clenches his fist). Star Wars isn't a collection of cinematical masterpieces or even universally well written movies but it often tries things in a very interesting way searching for something that can move most people in the audience without being explicit, that's why I like it personally, and for the prequels a big part of that is drawn from stage plays...

"I'll never forget it as long as I live." He said back in the 70s, meanwhile like 35-40 years later he gets it down.

@Wes Plybon exactly. I know relatively inexperienced people who give the same interview nearly word for word a dozen times. It makes a good sound bite, a good anecdote, obviously you're not going to forget it after a few times repeating it.

It's seared into his memory, like how "An artist respects the silence that serves as the foundation for creativity" is seared into mine

George telling him "but you never forgot, haven't you?" with a smirk is just the best lmao

@Some Guy Hey buddy, my mother was a goose. Show some respect.

Well... lets not forget that it's also been 40 years of cons and interviews and being asked to repeat it. Had Star Wars been a flop, I have a feeling Hamill would have forgotten it by now.

"Fear is their greatest defense" had Obi-Wan Kenobi written all over it. I don't know how it ended up in Luke's mouth. And as the beginning of a pile of exposition it could never work.

@Dethhollow Also perhaps adding some expression could help to make it more dynamic ; "The path is open though captain. Think of it, they're expecting a full scale assault, they would not expect a smaller vessel trying to sneak by. Fear is their greatest defence."

@NoBudjetFilms Yeah, exactly. You have to actually lead into something like that so it sounds at least somewhat natural.

@Dethhollow That would work a lot better. The line has good parts, "fear is their only defense" perfectly sums up the idea and themes of the Death Star and the Empire. It's just clunky with all of that minutiae about unknown planets and military strategy.

Fear seems like a powerful weapon to cowards.

Yeah, I feel like you could very easily re-write it to be workable for Obi Wan. "The path is open, though. They're expecting a full-scale assault so they wouldn't think a smaller vessel would try to sneak by. Fear is their only defense."

I love Mark Hamill for standing up for Jake Lloyd, that little boy deserved better than what the SW fandom tends to do to actors

@CisforCock Well it depends, Star Wars like most Sci-fi (it is only in that sense that it is truly sci-fi) takes a concept and expands on it to create a story. This concept is taking old buddhist philosophical concepts to a pulp sci-fi universe. You have the notion of attachement and renunciation (karma and dharma) and being one with the universe (moksha) but here instead of representing different level of understanding and bliss it represents two opposite sides of morality in a manichean setting. Any story using these concepts to their fullest in the Star Wars setting has huge potential. That is why I love Rogue One, everyone dies but is in a way liberated, there is some kind of sacrificial mystic that goes through the movie and gives it life. There is no need trying to dwelve into all SW stories, no one does, but to pick the ones that are actually good. I would also recommend the KOTOR comic which has some pacing issues in the middle but the beginning, the ending and even some of the adventures are very well written, the art style is also quite good for a comic for these parts, it deals with the failings of the Jedi and the often illusive nature of the Dark Side in an often humorous tone.

@Azar Shadakumuktir Now that you mention it, I watched a guy I know play through the entire campaign (including DLC) of 2017s Battlefront 2, and that story felt so compelling we went through it in one sitting. I mean, I do think that the SW universe as such has enormous potential for gripping stories, but it seems Sooo aimless and scattered in scope, that I would find it torturous to try and follow that jumbled mess.

@CisforCock You are right in my opinion. Rogue one is also my favourite SW movie, right before episode V. I also really like the KOTOR games, which have the best writing in my opinion even if the second was rushed.

@OVERLoRD As someone who has never really cared for SW, except to just keep myself in the loop, Rogue One surprised me so much, that I think its currently my fave movie of the bunch. That said, I havent seen anything past The Last Jedi, but if people more invested in the franchise are to be believed, I havent missed anything...

@Marty Moose I absolutely adored Rogue One. That one was truly special . . .

Jake Lloyd was 10 its stupid how people blamed him for the movie that is terrible

The prequels are amazing and they are MY childhood. I prefer the prequels over all other films. I think people are so silly to crap on them when really they are so much better special effects and story telling than the originals. Yes, some of the dialogue is garbage but that's the same for all Star Wars films they're corny at their core but we love the story and escapism they bring.

terrible dialogue yes the rest nah

@Richard Ober George kept him on for the little kids

Now this is podracing

@Bynk333 It's my favorite of the prequels.

"There's one line I begged him to take out" "Maclunkey"

Man, I haven't laught like this in a long time. Thank you

"Now say meme like you're scared of it."

You can type this maclunkey George but I can’t say it

You think about how delicious it would be if you ate it raw. You think about how delicious it would be if you ate it cooked.

Blessed comment

The problem with Mark's line is it's very much a military line. It could have been said by a Rebel officer or even Luke in Empire after some years of military service but it doesn't fit Luke the lost farm boy of A New Hope.

Yes, exactly. Mark was right to not want it in. If he (Luke) had just made a small comment about them always being ready for a large scale assault, and not this tiny ship, that could have sled on by, but not the whole line.

Oh wow really

@WeylandsWonders Fair point, but there is still a long way from video chess to an online shooter game, the latter he probably didn't play.

@iivin It's been years since I watched the original trilogy, but I thought it was the rebels that he wanted to join.

@phaedrus000 Did Luke want to join the Imperial Academy or did I imagine that? Regardless, I buy your version of the story more than a version where some officer delivers the line. Real soldiers can be blunt and casual.

The actors only had the balls to fix the dialogue because it wasn’t the STAR WARS we all know yet. It was just a space film, and therefore no one had the respect for the project that actors nowadays must feel towards it. The original trilogy was really lightening in a bottle. A real group effort that made it what it was. It wasn’t just Lucas, and it shows.

And by the time the prequels were being made, Lucas was already seen as a legend. I guess nobody had the balls to say anything about the dialogue in those movies because of how positive the original trilogy was so they all thought Lucas knew what he was doing.

@Jo No it is you who is incorrect about Lucas's involvement in the OT. Lucas created the story, wrote the script , and directed the film, designed a lot of the ships & creatures (Lucas is a cartoonist as a hobby. All his concept sketches he gave to Ralph Mquarrie to develop into storyboard art). All creative decisions were made by him (no-one from the cast & crew altered the dialogue, or edited the film). Lucas was in charge of all creative aspects of the OT. If there was a camera team documenting the making of ANH (like there was with TPM) you would have seen that :)

@Mr Wilz Never said they told him what to do. Neve said Lucas didn’t have a lot to do with the original trilogy. You corrected nothing. It’s a fact what I said is true. Some aspects were challenged. Not loads of stuff. Lucas definitely did a lot of the heavy lifting. But some here and there that definitely made a difference to the original trilogy. Lucas is just a man like the rest of us. We all make mistakes and can work off well with others. Not trying to take away anything from the guy or what he accomplished.

i'm sure they were all about to write a book titled "bored out, how not to pick scripts in hollywood" before the film his the theaters

@Jo No. I am afraid I have to correct you there about the myth that 'the cast & crew of SW told Lucas what to do on ANH'. Please see my email response to HonouredMule below. Lucas was very much in control of the OT as he was the PT and that is why they are great films :)

Jake Lloyd, if you're reading this, I thought you did a great job.

After watching Episode 1 again recently, I see so much similarity between my gamer/techy 8 year old and young Anakin AND he loves and quotes Jar Jar! I think Jake's portrayal was fine and sweet

@Sacred Sun It had nothing to do with the kid. The movie was a solid 1/10 at best. Nobody could have pulled it off. Nobody.

I agree. I thought he had done a great job. Anyone who does not know anything about SW (and believe it or not I have met such people) watch the SW saga in chronological order (ie: 1 thru to 6 ONLY :) would be shocked by the adorable boy's transformation into a cyborg monster called Darth Vader (and again I have met such young people who have said this). So kudos to Jake. It is a pity he gave up acting as it would have been good to see him in roles as an adult :)

Jake did an amazing job! 99% of all child actors couldn't of handled a role like that. It's too much dialogue for a child but he knocked it out the park.

Me too. He was adorable!

2:17 Lucas is like: "I wrote that damn line, like, 100 years ago, why do you still roast me for that?"

@fshalor George didn't kill him off at all, he hasn't had anything to do with Star Wars since he sold it to Disney.

also... "I'm roasting you for killing me off". Or wait... was this roast WHY Luke got killed off?

Yeah, you definitely could tell he annoyed in the sense of “Why do you think I spent all of that time auditioning hundreds of other actors in your age group to find the right actors to convincingly say my dialogue?” It’s not a demanding expectation of a director to find actors who don’t need to be pampered with “motivation” to execute what they want. Hamill, Ford and Fisher worked so well because their qualities were a perfect match for Luke, Han and Leia.

I dont like sand is a meme, but it does mean a lot to Anakin.

@Elkarus “I don’t like sand”.

It's all about leverage. Lucas was an up an coming director and had not yet developed his full ego. Alec Guinness was older and respected in the industry, so he could say anything he wanted. Harrison and George were friends and around the same age so they could have those conversations. Mark was pretty ballsy and had the least leverage, but Star Wars wasn't guaranteed to be anything at that time. When the prequels were made, Lucas was a billionaire with tons of power and a big ego. Hayden Christiansen had no power to do anything and had to be a yes man to George. I can imagine maybe Liam Neeson was the only cast member with the clout to stand up to George if he wanted to.

He also had a ton of help with the script for the original movie. A lot of his worst ideas later got refused in the prequels. Such as the slave trader.

George is wonderful at creating worlds, things concepts and characters. He sometimes might have problems with sharing them with us, but I just feel bad for him for all the hate his dialogues got. Man just shared with us his love and hard work and we just criticize him. Kinda sad although I'm not saying it's not justified.

Art is supposed to be criticized!!! Also, why are you feeling bad for a billionaire? Smh

He's worth over $5 billion. Don't feel bad for him.

@Mandi Indeed.

George's works were much better when people were telling him "No." Thats why 1, 2, and 3 flopped, too many doe eyed 'yes men' busy nerd-gasming over a new star wars instead of telling George, "No way George. Does it sound cool? Yes. Does it work in a movie......HELL NO!" He NEEDS that push back against his pie in the sky imagination to temper it into a cohesive creation of wonder.

Yes, how sad. Good thing George can wipe away his tears with literal billions of dollar notes.

Wow it's also nice to see Harrison Ford having fun with Star Wars for once and not act so anxiety ridden and miserable.

@MLH I thought he always showed up to interviews high

@MLH I thought that immediately, and I don't blame him.

kind of sounded like he had a bit of liquid assistance with that.

I think Lucas' severe lack of social skills are reflected on the kind of dialogue he writes. Surrounding himself with yes men/women after 1983 didn't help either.

@The Gunger Bros Podcast Consulting doesn't mean anything. It takes people standing up to George by insisting he reconsider his decisions.

George’s dialogue was good. The modern Disney Star Wars dialogue is awful.

@ZootWorld1 You are correct he doesn't really like directing as he is more of a documentary-film maker. However that does not mean that he cannot direct (quite the opposite in fact, he is an amazing director). THX-1138, American Graffiti, and of course the SW films are all amazing pieces of work :)

@H No I did not post anything under a 2nd account. I just responding to the point that the other poster made with a little more exposition & background re: Gary Kurtz etc. :)

Poor George looks like he’s going to cry.

I'm sure the $4 billion helps with that.

@White-Dragon That's a good point, explains why RotJ was a bit lacking. It had the magic of the first two albeit a bit wonkier.

@White-Dragon Marcia did not suggest any of those things to Lucas. She is an editor not a scriptwriter. Lucas made all the decisions on SW not his wife

@Swish Fish Only difference is I’m crying while dealing with rent and being broke. They at least get to cry while wiping their tears away with hundred dollar bills.

Murder By Death is such an underrated movie. I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to see more of Star Wars era Alec Guinness. He handles the comedic aspects surprisingly well

Sir Alec as a BLIND butler, teamed with a deaf maid! It was a fun film!

So Sir Alec had 2.25% of Episode IV? I wonder how much that amounted to. P.S. Checked and it's around 60M apparently

@Charlie OBrien Watch the story of the original Star Wars trilogy on Disney+. Even Lucas wasn't totally sure that episode 4 would be a big success. Nothing Sci-Fi had been done on a scale this big before, especially with this type of CGI. When the movie went over deadline and over budget, if it weren't for Alan Ladd, Jr., who was president of Twentieth Century Fox at the time and a good friend of George Lucas, the movie would have been axed and would have never been released. Ladd believed in Lucas and was probably the only man on the planet that was sure the movie would be successful.

@Steve Vernon Yes, episode 4 was originally titled Star Wars because Lucas didn't know whether there would be more than one movie. When it succeeded, it was subsequently renamed New Hope because all the movies in the franchise were "Star Wars."

@The Lone Ranger what is this "New Hope" of which you speak... the movie's name is "STAR WARS"

@The Lone Ranger To say that no one except George expected Star Wars to succeed is just revisionist thinking. Of course they thought it would succeed. Lucas had just come off of making "American Graffiti", which was a smash success and he also had "THX 1138" under his belt to prove that he could handle the Sci-Fi genre. Also the studio would have never OK'd the $25 million budget that was spent on the movie (which was the most ever spent on a film up to 1977), if they didn't think it would make a lot of money.

@gloverelaxis yeah that 0.03% would have been great

1:12 Jesus, it's incredible how perfectly Mark imitates Harrison's mannerisms!

The man is a powerhouse

George looks so uncomfortable while his acquaintances make fun of him

He looks like a total geek very very much outside his comfort zone.

The way he still expresses Star Wars is his.

He's usually a little uncomfortable.

Love how Mark has always done his Harrison Ford impersonation.

@Simon Lancaster like any TRUE student of the Jedi Arts. ;)

Yes, but his Harrison impersonation is much better now. As he has got older he has developed his skills.

All these years later Mark still talks about Harrison like he’s his grumpy older brother.

“we’re the ones who are gonna get vegetables thrown at us” aged too well

Its so sad that by the time the prequels rolled around the actors couldn't tell George no. He wasn't just another director, he was a legend. He needed people who would tell him no, its so sad that because of either hubris or circumstance he didn't have that.

Mark hasnt changed a bit. Wicked to see him do his thing with the audience and his incredible story telling so early in his career.

I love Alec Guinness’ voice.

The force is strong in that one

"Flying through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy. Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that would end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?"

Tbf that line fots perfectly for a experienced pilot whose fed up with back seat driving

"it will take a few moments for the navicomputer" is actually a good and necessary line. Its building tension because theyre being chased and it explains why they cant just instantly go into hyperspace especially since they couldnt really make a very good visual representation of the navicomputer working given the visual limits though the delivery is awkward. Would be better as "just gotta wait for the navicomputer" just short and simple remember hes a space smuggler a good pilot yes but not someone who will speak grammatically correct

Also, not every piece of highly sophisticated equipment needs to always be called by it's assigned name. I highly doubt that a gunslinger-ish smuggler would call it a navicomputer. Could've just left it at NAVI, or just SYSTEM, or just left the name out altogether.

Exactly, a smuggler and pilot would have clipped words to efficiency not blown out sentences like he's a Rhode Island scholar.

Mark Hamill is such a national treasure. I'm definitely no fan of the sequels, but I'm glad that it's gotten Mark back in the spotlight.

As cringy as Anakin's dialogue there at the end was, if you view it as an awkward teenager raised by monks attempting to be flirtatious, it kind of makes sense.

The thing is, that may be true, but I don't think that's what the movie was trying for.

@Willowweeds Well, his love is supposed to be the reason he turns to the dark side, so him coming off a bit creepy is probably good. But I think they should have gone for edgy bad-boy not sad loser.

Yeah and with even a little chemistry between the actors and without the creepy almost licking his lips as he watches his childhood crush who is clearly not that into him it might’ve come off that way, but it’s just icky! Like sheltered and shy is one thing basement dwelling stalker vibe is another...

Mark legit just summarized everything that happened when the prequels came out

Omg, George Lucas looks so sad while they are making fun of his script :( He is always this these last times

“I’ll never forget it as long as I live” if you have seen ANY video where Mark talks you know he was right

In the audition clip, the line actually doesn't sound that bad. Plus, Mark even admits intellectually every part of that line makes sense and gives information. If they smoothed out a couple words I still think that line could've worked. Goodness knows they kept similar lines in ANH anyways (both Luke and Han say a lot of densely-packed lines), so it's not like it was going to be out of place.

Only Alec Guinness could make the story of half percent royalties interesting.

@throw away Don't make me take off my hat...

His body language and personality still the same after all these years, this man didn't change a bit.

It's actually a good thing Luke's line was cut. It brought into spoken dialog a concept that didn't didn't need to be spoken. Fear is something people innately understand, we don't need to be told how to fear something. It actually makes the film stronger by not stating it. Let the visuals do this work, not the dialog. The second problem with that line of dialog is that it brought up planet names that were never used or discussed in the film. Since we had no background about these planets, the audience can't identify with what the dialog was trying to infer about them.

Agree with you but one thing: Han Solo made the Kessel run in 12 parsecs. World building my friend, world building.

Basically, all of the Prequels' dialogue 😏

One of my favorite things that Mark Hammill has ever said, wasn't even in the movies, it was during a press conference for The Force Awakens. When Mark was upset that Rey had the abilities of the force without any training, he said, "ahhhh she hasn't even been to Dagobah for training." That was a true star wars fan reacting to directors not knowing anything about the star wars franchise. I wish Mark Hammill could have directed Episodes 7,8,9 we might have actually seen a story line that made sense. Instead we got an Angry Hermit Luke that drinks green titty milk from Alien Anteaters. Facking shame if you ask me.

Omg Mark Hamil delivered that line so well, he appears to have genuine love for star wars!

@M Maybe you're right. But man, Rian destroying Star Wars has to be one of the most intelligent moves of cinematic history, whether intentional or not. We need less of these creatively bankrupt franchises.

@Nelson Stewart the fact that a director did 1 job doesn’t make him a genius. I remind you that jjabrams made Lost, but then he made Star Trek, then force awakens, is he a genius? Fkng hell

nobody done more for star wars than Mark

@Mark Koetsier Totally agree with you on that. Lucas consoled Hamill after Ep8 got released (as Hamill seemed very unhappy with how his character got treated by Johnson, Abrams & Kennedy etc) by letting him read the plot treatment & script for Ep7 that he had initially written for Disney to use (but Kennedy had rejected it). Hamill read it and publicly said that Lucas's original version should have been used in the Ep7 film (as it had Luke as the main protagonist training his grand daughter as a Padawan, and leading the fight against the main villains - which were NOT the Empire or First Order etc)

@M Rian's a genius. Knives Out is such a classic movie. I honestly think Rian wanted to kill Star Wars, and thankfully so, Disney has no right destroying it like they are doing. Better it dead than its corpse hanging around like the Simpsons.

George is just an intellectual poet, a one of its kind and I absolutely adore him!

Hearing Alec Guinness speak is like wrapping yourself up in a warm blanket

Honestly this is fantastic, they all look like they have so much fun together.

I love hearing Alec Guinness talk. He has such a magical voice.

Alec had sheer presence. He could hold an audience.

Idk man. Thank goodness this man got to write dialogue. His lines are some of the most memorable I’ve ever seen in cinema, hate it or love it. It’s a space opera after all

Good director listens to actors and recognizes that its their film as well. I wish more directors would take George Lucas's approach and listen to the actors. (although its kind of sad that they actually had to fight for it) And good actors also care enough to speak up when they encounter stuff like that. Star wars wouldn't have been such a great film series without both.

Mark is a national treasure. Even as a young actor he was great

Guess everyone, including the man who wrote it, forgot that the “fear is their greatest defense” line was actually written for Obi-Wan Kenobi.

The more I hear about George Lucas the more I realize how critical him having a good team was. There was so much bad stuff he did but everyone around him pulled him back.

Is it just me or does Alex Guinness’s voice immediately make me think of Obi Wan? He coined that character for good!!!

Omg I’ve said this over and over again. All the prequel actors were too young to hold their own against GL who, by then was an ICON, not just an ‘up and coming director’. It was a tragic combination that really hurt a lot of their careers.

The whole world owes Jake Lloyd an apology. All of us. The whole damn world. What happened to him wasn't fair, and we either went along with it, or didn't do anything about it. I mean, I could have sent him fan mail in postage just saying "thank you for your performance :)" or something short, postage isn't expensive, and some encouragement would be nice. The film industry is brutal. Its an ocean of sharks, and to receive the kind of hate he got from everyone else outside it was cruelty on top of it all.

Who is Jake Lloyd I don't owe him shit,

Poor George really takes a bashing, but at the end of the day I am just grateful we had Star wars.

George Lucas is a conceptualist and a visual artist. He's not necessarily a writer of dialogue, but that is perhaps his only shortcoming. He is a very good director when motivated and (he also dreamed up "Indiana Jones" with Spielberg) and he is a pioneer in technical aspects of movie making. George Lucas doesn't need to hang his head because a bunch of internet nerds didn't have all of their expectations come true.

"Fear is there greatest defense ..." I am putting this line back in the next Star Wars film.

George has always been a great writer, who creates amazing backstory, huge universes to play against, and grand theater. But, his skill at dialogue is notoriously bad, and his directorial skills are questionable. He's best providing the macro, providing the script, and letting others trim it and direct it. That's when magic happens.

@Mr Wilz Yes Kershner found the idea of directing such a large film daunting, but pulled it off anyway. Trepidation is not the same as incompetence. In terms of the script, yes, the main story beats were there, but to relegate Kasdan to just 'a few lines of slang dialogue' is a massive disservice. Kasdan states that Lucas had somewhere between an outline and a first draft before he started work, where the overall structure was mostly in place. What Kasdan brought was characterisation and a properly fleshed out story. ESB is snappier and tighter in that regard than the other SW films. Also I don't dislike RotJ. That's not what I said. I said it was in my estimation a step down from ESB, which I consider to be the best SW film so far, so that's hardly disliking it. As for it being kiddie-friendly, let's face it. It was always going to be kiddie-friendly. George isn't stupid, and knows how to market his films towards kids so they want to buy lots of toys, yet make them interesting enough for adults. By RotJ he was just hitting his stride in that regard. Sometimes he goes overboard, like he did with TPM, but the idea that this is down to Kasdan I find highly unlikely. Ewoks after all came from Lucas, not Kasdan. Kasdan fought for RotJ to have a main character die and agreed with Ford that it should be Solo. But, as Ford says, "George didn't think there was any future in dead-Han toys". It was also Kasdan that preferred the much more threatening "Revenge of the Jedi" title, but Lucas wanted a softer title for it so 'Return' it was. But to be clear, I don't take anything away from Lucas. As I said in the very first comment, he's a great film-maker who manages to weave together some grand tales and in that respect is a great storyteller, and it's simply the case that with no Lucas, no Star Wars, but nobody is perfect. His few weak areas have always been dialogue (notoriously!) and while he's a functional director, it's not his strong point. When he gets assistance in those areas, and when he has creative people around that will push back on his ideas so he isn't in an echo-chamber, his work elevates

@Rekaert You are completely wrong about Kirshner in TESB. By his own admission he didn't know what he was doing (he was unsure if he could pull it off etc). The reason why TESB was so great was down to the script which was actually written by Lucas himself (but credited to Leigh Brackett & Lawrence Kasdan). Btw - Lawrence only added a few lines of slang dialogue for the Han Solo character in the TESB script. Everything else was written by Lucas himself. However Irvin Kirshner simply isn't a good Sci-Fi director (just look at Robocop 2 which he had complete creative control over and was a complete mess). It was because of the solid script and creative control by Lucas that made TESB a hit (tbh TESB is not my favourite SW movie. I much prefer ROTS and ANH over it). Also since you dislike ROTJ so much you would be interested to know that Lucas's initial draft for ROTJ was much darker than the shooting script (which was completely re-written by Kasdan and made a bit more kiddie friendly)

@Mr Wilz Well I for one am certainly glad he did get the job, or we wouldn't have ESB in the form we have it. By all accounts, Lucas essentially wanted a proxy Director who would follow his map to the letter. Gary Kurtz went on record with something to that effect, but Kershner wasn't that kind of blank Director, and that push and pull between Lucas's plan and Kershner's desire to take different directions produced a great film. But, Lucas does like to have a tighter control, so he brought in Marquand for RotJ who by all accounts let Lucas walk over him, and it shows. RotJ is a good movie and a fitting end to that trilogy, but it's a step down from ESB by my estimation. Then of course he kept total control over the prequels and sure enough, clumsy dialogue, an utterly inorganic love story and back to flat directing. No, I'm thankful that Kershner was involved, or it wouldn't have been the fan-favourite that it is.

@Rekaert A 'fast' director is what you need to be when you are directing a major FX movie with a time limit of 12-weeks. Kershner, whom I consider a good TV movie director, should not have been given the director's chair for TESB. From his own admission he was nervous as he was directing the film (which resulted in a lot of mistakes with scene 'out of focus' which prompt Lucas to get the 2nd Unit director to reshoot a lot of scenes). Kershner only got the job due to nepotism (he was a lecturer who taught both SW 'Line Producer' Gary Kurtz & George Lucas). He wasn't Lucas's preference as director as 'he was too old' but Kurtz convinced him saying that Kershner was an 'independent filmmaker' outside of the Hollywood system. That, plus the fact that Kershner directed the TV movie 'Return of a Man called Horse' which Lucas liked and so decided to go for Kershner (also it most be noted that Lucas asked all his director friends to direct TESB and they all declined it). Although I liked the movie 'Return of a Man called Horse' I don't think Kershner is a good fit for science fiction (you can see that in Robocop 2 where he had complete creative control over the film). The fact that Kurtz wanted Kershner replaced is indication of how troubled the TESB shoot was. Lucas should have either directed TESB himself or got another director like Akira Kurosawa, or Michael Anderson (director of the brilliant WII film 'Operation Crossbow') to do TESB. If he had done so the movie would not have gone over-time & over budget etc. BTW - regardless of TESB being the fan-favorite, ANH is still considered the best & most iconic film (which is why it tops every movie poll).

@Mr Wilz Sure the production had difficulties. It's a rare film that doesn't to be frank. Second unit director John Barry died a couple of weeks into the shoot, the storm at the time in Norway set back the production, a fire at Elstree put the schedule into disarray and it went over budget. Carrie and Harrison were squabbling, and Kershner, while he gets results is not considered a 'fast' Director. Doesn't change my point though. And I don't doubt there are people who consider ANH in the #1 slot, and not just because it was the film that started it all, which is the reason I regularly see cited. But, ESB has been considered the fan-favourite for decades. Again, not a contentious thing to say.

Mark has such a unique and authentic delivery, he actually could have made it work, despite it being a dreadful line

4:20 LMAO Harrison probably didn't say "stuff" 🤣🤣🤣

He was going to say maclunkey.

@David Um, yeah, no shit. :P

Debra Kadabra Yes that’s the joke.

He didn't. It was "shit".

“Fear is their greatest defence” is a good line. George Lucas needs an editor.

Its nice to look back and see them all happy, especially mark Hamil

Mark should say that line as the Joker. As a matter of fact, I think he should re-record all his Star Wars lines as the Joker.

or as skips from regular show

Uncle Owen! This R2 unit has a bad motivator! Look! HA HA HA HO HE HE HE!!!

I'd rather hear him re-record all his lines as Rip Burger

Alec Guinness mentioning Murder By Death was cool. That's an incredibly underrated film.

I feel like George is very close to just bursting out in tears as it is just a bunch of people critiquing his writing.

Wow. All of the bits in this short film is epic. It is especially lovely for me to have a couple of very British and very eloquent answers to these... Really all of these are the best. And what Mark Hamill said at the finale about the legendary Prequel Trilogy is absolutely right!!!!!!!

It would have been one of the greatest Star Wars quotes of all times. And now it may actually be.

I'm glad I'm seeing it in the comments here. He actually kind of makes that work, and while just sitting in a chair on a studio soundstage. It's as terrible as he says it is, but I think simply from grappling so hard with it for as long as he must have (he still seems mildly traumatized), he found the tiny sliver of 'truth' or whatever actors are always banging on about in it.

Alec Guinness' voice was a work of art. 😮 Rest in Peace!

I actually think he delivered it quite excellently in the audition lol. So much so, that it didn't sound half bad

George Lucas is so fucking amazing. I admire that dude so much.

Mark’s line sounds like my boyfriend when we discuss battle tactics of WWII.

I can't imagine how heated it would be when you start discussing the north African campaigns

Floompy Bear that’s a fantastic relationship. It’s lovely when my girlfriend gets on board and discusses history with me

oneraceonedestiny It usually is. We both were voted class clown, we just love military history. 🤣

A great reminder that a fantastic actor can make us completely forget the shortfalls of the dialogue

You know, that last clip where Anakin talks about sand, making it a compliment that Amidala is soft and smooth, really is a perfectly cringable thing a teen would say to a crush. It's cringy but fits the role and situation perfectly.

imagine if Georges writing is so meta that he even includes the cringyness of teen-talk in his anakin dialogue. But to convey a realistic teen experience the story should have panned out with Anakin being rejected, listening to Nirvana records in his room and stealing Obi-Wans Millers lites and cry in his room

I wouldn't disagree, but I wouldn't agree fully either. The lines were cringey but should have been up-acted or emphasized properly. Iambic pentameter and all that. I just don't think there was enough chemistry between Hayden and Portman either.

A great example of the whole being greater than the sum of the parts. Alec was a stroke of genius as well...myself an aging man at this point, I find his presence in scenes enriching to them in ways that are difficult to articulate. While the later films didn't really recapture whatever that spark was for the kid in me, watching good hearted discussions about just what a phenomenon this was feeds that childlike wonder. Thanks Cinema! :-)

It’s honestly amazing that even as young and inexperienced as he was he still understood what was wrong with the lines and was able to figure out how to fix them.

So true! Despite his genius, Lucas always did have some bad instincts. He benefitted by having people around him who would question him, make suggestions, and help with the writing and directing (his weakest points). This was clear from other projects, like Indiana Jones, where Spielberg had to step in and say "bad idea!" and keep things on track.

@AnonRanGER01 Yeah, totally agree on the working methods. I don't currently have access to such streaming as to be able to see these new series, I hope sometime in the future it will be possible for me to watch. Haven't played any Star Wars game since KOTOR 1 but its nice to have a heads up on those newer games, if they are that good i might try them out :)

@Deildegast Oh yeah, Mandalorian is better than the entire new trilogy, and for me personally the best Star Wars content in decades (although I also really liked Jedi: Fallen Order, but that is ofc a game). It seems like, while people were working together to create the first trilogy, people involved in the last trilogy were working against each other... and ofc pushing agendas rather than telling great stories with great characters. Shame.

@AnonRanGER01 The somewhat funny thing is that nobody seems to have learned on what basically is the essence of this thread - that the greatness of 4.5.6 was a refined effort from a group of people who on their own never could have made the movie, but each contributed to the result. I haven't seen these newer series like mandalorian and such, but I hear they beat the quality of 8 and 9 by lightyears. Maybe they learned some after all.

@Deildegast Oh, I'm with you on that... I'm just saying that I understand that they'd play it as safe as possible with the first episode of STAR WARS after 20 years, so I'm okay with it. I expected it to be a bit more original after that, and I guess you could call the clusterfuck that followed Episode 7 "original", but oh boy... oooooh boy, what a clusterfuck it was.

@AnonRanGER01 " they wanted to play it save " well, one can phrase it like that. I for one would use "had no ideas and therefor copy-pasted the original".